RC-85 PAL "Faker" When upgrading an RC-85 from something prior to V3.xx to V3.xx or later, the 74LS138 must be replaced with something else. ACC used a $150 PAL board to do the job, but you can do it by rewiring the 74LS138. The following information from Paul Kindell should help. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- I took years ago a good pal from an RC-85 and hooked a dip sw to it's input. By running data into the PAL I came up with this design for the 74LS138. It is my opinion the PAL was just a way to try and copy protect the eprom and/or get $150.00 from everyone. I take 2 16 pin machine pin, IC sockets and plug them together. Take 4 short pieces of wire wrap wire and strip the ends back. Solder one wire into the socket pin 7, then another into socket pin 9, 10, & 11. You should now have 4 wires sticking up into the air from the socket. Take the 74LS138 and bend up in the air pins 7, 9, 10, & 11. Now solder the wire from the ic socket pin 7 to ic pin 9. Socket wire pin 9 to ic pin 7. Socket wire pin 10 to ic pin 11. Socket wire 11 to ic pin 10. This has worked for me in the past. I have the 2 pals I got from ACC back on 4/11/95. They are GAL16V8B, my blown PAL shows the number PAL10L8NC (I think it's blown, my RC-85 is still not working yet) I doubt they can be read, but I don't really think we need to. I think we can use the Faker or design our own PAL to do the same thing ACC's did. Paul WB8ZVL